Wes Warner's Memorial Day - July 23, 2011

Wes's Salmon Carving at the Fish Camp

Friends and family met at Wes's Fish Camp, his home on the Kenai River, to remember and celebrate his life, They came from Arizona, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, and Alaska.

Our new Winnebago Class C

Mary and I drove our new RV on it maiden voyage. It was a brand new 2007 model... but it was new to us.  Pogo, our young dog made her fisrt camping trip with us.

Mary and Pogo at Wes' s Fish Camp

Carla & Frances Ann Prepare food

There was a hugh run of Red Salmon up the river, so the river was packed with fish in the channel and people on the banks pulling them out. Lots caught at Wes's fish camp that weekend.

Paul and Pete Warner share a memory.

Ernie Warner flew in from Coeur d' Alene, ID

Warren and Wendy Hagman came in from Henderson, NV

Paul Warner flew in from Seattle to make friends with Pogo

Pete Warner talks to his cousin, Sean Waterman, from Arizona.

Frances Waterman came from Arizona with his two sons.

Friends and Family gather to share memories.

Waitning for the start of the Memorial Service.

Fishing was great on the Kenai - the Reds were running.

 

At five the group gathered for the Memorial to Wes.  Warren Hagman read  The Cremation of Sam McGee by Robert Service,  Wes's favorite Alaska poem.

Warren reads The Cremation of Sam McGee

The launch to spread Wes's ashed.

Scott Waterman of Arizona pays his respect.

Carla Warner gives Wes's sshes to the Kenai.

In Memory of Wes Warner.

Wes We'll Miss You.

Manlove Origins, Part 6 - On to Indiany

George W. Manlove’s journal is the only artifact surviving these two hundred years to indicate when and how the Manlove family got to Indiana. Since his is the family’s earliest writing to come down to us it is tempting to conclude that George W. was the family point man, the first to make the trip. That may be so, but his father and three brothers also went to Indiana about the same time, and we don’t really know who got there first.

George W mentioned in his Journal that he took the Crab Orchard road (The Logan Trace??) on 17 Oct to visit his father. It is therefore likely that George senior had already moved from North Carolina, but it’s a mystery as to what he was doing in that part of Kentucky or how long he stayed.

George W.’s older brothers, William and John entered the Indiana territory before 1820. William died in the early part of 1819 of cholera. He was living in Fayette County, as was George W. John lived in neighboring Henry County. These two counties, along with Rush and Wayne are four clustered at the border of Ohio, and are the main ones into which the Manlove family eventually migrated.

I think Mark, the youngest brother was the last to come into Indiana. He originally settled in Highland county Ohio, but moved to Tippecanoe county after 1827. The brothers’ oldest sibling, and only sister, Hannah, was possibly the last family member to leave North Carolina. She, her husband, Edward Trotter, and family left after 1822 and probably passed through Indiana. They may have stayed a while, but eventually moved on to Missouri.

A year after he got to Indiana George W. Manlove wed Mary Caldwell. The Caldwell family was also from Guilford County, North Carolina, but had been in Ohio a few years. The marriage was performed in October of 1811 in Preble County, Ohio - which is just across the border and a short hop from his land on Lick Creek, Fayette County.

The newlyweds and Mary’s parents, moved onto their Lick Creek farms shortly afterward, but were forced to withdraw to Ohio as Tecumseh, the famous Shawnee leader, was actively organizing a confederation of Midwestern tribes. Things got really hot in the territory during the War of 1812. George W. Manlove’s father participated in the war, and probably came to Indiana country after it ended. The uprising failed after Tecumseh was killed in battle in 1813. The families returned to Lick Creek in 1814, and developed the land.

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Manlove Origins, Part 5 - George W. Manlove’s Journal

"A JOURNAL - North Carolina Guilford County Deep River, the 17th of the 9th month, 1810. “We, Edward and Joseph Bond their wives and my self George Manlove, this day began our journey for the Indiany Territory about four in the afternoon, went a few miles and camped on a friend's yard.

"Wednesday the 18th . We set out after breakfast on a fair morning, but cloudy in the afternoon, some thunder and rain. We camped the night at Salem which was disagreeable and wet.

"Thursday the 19th . We set out on foggy morning which was followed with some rain the forenoon, but cleared up in the afternoon. Went a few miles. We had difficulty in climbing a hill which we did safely by doubling our teams. We went on all well except Joseph's mare failed some. We camped about three miles from the Shallow Ford on the Yadkin to-night which was cloudy with some rain in the forepart of the night.

"Friday the 21st. We started out early in a foggy morning and crossed the Yadkin about eight o'clock. About ten the weather became fair and continued so all day. We arrived at John Bonds about three where we stayed all night.

"Saturday the 22nd. The weather continued fair. We are all well except colds. This morning my mare lame, I draw a nail and she is getting better.

"Sunday the 23rd . A fair day. We continue at John Bonds. The evening was cloudy with some rain.

"Monday the 24th. We set out in a fair morning went to Elwood Bonds, Jr. where we tha't it best to buy another creature as we have but two to each wagon and our load was heavy so we sold one cow and some other things and fixed a three horse team.

"Tuesday the 25th. We set out fro Edward Bonds about twelve. The weather continued fair. We crossed the Yadkin at Rockford. The old man had like to of set the wagon but as there was several friends with us we lifted the wagon out of the place and went on well till night. Took a camp where we spent the night comfortable.

"Wednesday the 26th. We set off early in a fair morning. Our cow was very troublesome all day. We camped on the Old Hollaw road the weather continuing fair and cool.

"Thursday the 27th. We started early went about eight miles to the foot of the mountain. Watered our horses and rested a few minutes then doubled our teams and took up our wagons one at a time which took us all the day, nearly went on for Joshua Bonds. Night took us about two miles from ther. John Bond being in company with us went on to Joshua's and they both come and met us a light. We had a hilly road but good otherwise.

"Friday the 28th. As our cow still proved troublesome and we rather weak of force we changed the cow for a mare and fixes three horses to each wagon but did not move the wagons today.

"Saturday the 29th. The morning was some foggy. We started early, proceeded till about one o'clock. When we arrived at the house of a relation by the name of E. bond where we staid till morning.

"Sunday the 30th. We started early, proceeded on our way. Tho' the road was rough past the Furnis and crossed new River at Evanses ferry then a good road till night. The weather continued fair. Our mare performs well.

"Monday the 1st of October 1810 . The morning was fair. We set out early, pased Mythe Court House and in a few miles met a drove of cattle which contained one hundred and sixty seven, and saw a drove of sheep in a field which I suppose contained three hundred. We made a good days journey and had a comfortable night.

"Tuesday the 2nd. We started early. We saw a drove of cattle in a field. I suppose, about one hundred and fifty. We also met several small droves of horses, crossed Solston several times and camped on the bank near Mile ford and had a comfortable night.

"Wednesday the 3rd. We started as soon as it was light enough and proceeded on all well. Met a drove of hogs of about one hundred head. In the afternoon we pased Arlington and went three miles and camped for the night which was fair.

"Thursday the 4th. We performed as usual.

"Friday the 5th. We started early and went on well till noon when we was hindered one hour to wedge a wagon box then went on again cross the north fork of Solston today and weather continued fair and dry and very dusty.

"Saturday the 6th. We started early on our journey and cross Holstine at Dotsons ford. The weather was fair till late at night when it became cloudy and some rain fell.\

"Sunday the 7th . The morning was cloudy and about nine it began to rain and continued till about twelve, when it cleared up and was cold. We arrived at John Canadays where we stayed all night.

"Monday the 8th. The morning was clear and frosty. We started after breakfast and went about one mile and a half and stopped our wagons in the road till Joseph and I went to look at some mills in a sink hole and then proceeded on our way for Lost Creek. We stopped at Charity -illses (Millses?) and took dinner and left Joseph there and went on John -- where we staid all night and also Tuesday and Wednesday the 9th and 10th.

"Thursday the 11th. We started with William Mendenhall who was going to the Ohio with a wagon and we also have Reuben Morgan in company with us. We crossed Holstine and Hanses ford. The weather continues fair and frosty till today which was cloudy, but little rain.

"Friday the 12th. We started with Clinch Mountain on our right hand and continued on till evening when we crossed Clinch River at Bullers ford, went one mile and camped. The night was wet and disagreeable.

"Saturday the 13th. We started in a wet and cloudly morning. Had a very bad road. About noon we fell into the old Kentucky Road at Clabourn. We crossed Powel's river at Powel's mountain. The weather became clear in the afternoon. We camped the night at Powel's valley.

"Sunday the 14th. We started in a foggy morning. Soon arrived at the foot of Cumberland mountain which we found bad going up but worse down. We also had rough road all day. Crossed some small mountains and in the evening crossed Cumberland River and camped on the bank one mile down below the ford. I was taken ill the night.

"Monday the 15th. I being unwell did not start till after sunrise. The morning was foggy. We had a rough road. We camped at Richland and I found myself better.

"Tuesday the 16th. We set out early. Had dry and rough road and camped at the forks of the road.

"Wednesday the 17th. I took the Crab orchard road and the rest of the company the Madison road. I went to see my father who I found about 10 o'clock and staid with him till Friday the 19th and then started after my company and fell into the road before I got to Richmond. I rode late and then up till near day. I staid at Willim Johnses.

"Saturday the 20th. I set out before day and crossed Kentuck River about day break and over took my company at Lexington and passed Georgetown and crossed Elkhorn in the afternoon and took our camp for the night which was warm and clear near day, then clouded over.

"Sunday the 21st. We set out in a warm foggy morning but soon began to rain and about noon cleared off. We had a bad road. We arrive at the foot of the dry --- at dark and went upon the hill to camp.

"Monday the 22nd. We set out in a clear and cool morning. We killed some turkeys. The rode was dry and good.

"Tuesday the 23rd. We set out and made 12 miles again eleven. We took the new road and camped the night six miles from Cincinnati. The weather is cold.

"Wednesday the 24th. We set out early and crossed the Ohio at Cincinnati and staid in town till 2 o'clock then went on and camped at the forks of the road nine miles from town. The night was cold and frosty.

"Thursday the 25th. We parted with William Mendenhall and Ruben Morgan who we fell in company with at Lost Creek and we took left hand road towards Hamilton which we passed in the afternoon and crossed the big Meamy and took for road for Eaton and camped at the five mile spring.

"Friday the 26th. We proceeded on till about eleven when we stopped with James Rands and took breakfast and the went on and camped about one mile from Eaton.

"Saturday the 27th. We fell in company with Isaac Jessup and Benjamin Smith who was our pilots. Some distance in the evening we got Jacob Jessup Jr. to pilot us to William Bonds but met him before we got to his house and he led us to his house where we arrived about dark."
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Manlove Origins, Part 4 - The Wilderness Road & Cumberland Gap

The Appalachian Mountain range running from New England south to the middle of Georgia was an impenetrable barrier to early colonial migration. Its complex system of mountains, valleys, ridges, and plateaus thwarted easy passage. People of Scott-Irish descent entered in the north, followed the Great Appalachian Valley south into the remote hinterland and became isolated and forgotten for more than a century. Many “Hillbilly” legends evolved after they were rediscovered in the early 20th Century.

There were only a few ways to get by the Appalachians: direct passage in the north via the Hudson and Mohawk valleys; the roundabout way by skirting their southern terminus in Georgia; or through gaps in the range made by rivers that had cut through mountains. The Manlove family made the crossing to the other side via the Cumberland Gap.

George W. Manlove, the fourth child of George and Rachel (Dunning) Manlove, made his appearance in 1786, three years after his parents immigrated from Delaware to North Carolina. He grew up in the Deep River area of Guilford County, but left for Indiana just before he turned 24. We know the specific time and place because this is the way he started his travel journal. “North Carolina Guildford County Deep River, the 17th of the 9th month, 1810. We, Edward Bond and Joseph Bond their wives and my self George Manlove, this day began our journey for the Indiany Territory about four in the afternoon, went a few miles and camped on a friend’s yard.“

He added a sentence or two nearly every night. They camped in Salem the next night, and three miles from Shallow Ford on the Yadkin River the third. Mostly the comments concerned the weather, places they camped, landmarks, or the condition of the road. They stayed several nights at relatives of his traveling companions - John, Elwood, Edward, and Joshua Bond’s places were mentioned. I tried to follow their route but found I could only identify a few points. They crossed the Yadkin several times, the last one being at Rockford. After that their exact route became vague. Rivers were crossed at named fords, but I was unable to identify any other than Shallow Ford. The crossings and mountain ranges proved to be the only way I could follow the party’s early progress. The journal mentioned the New, Solston, Holstine, Powell, Clinch, and Cumberland Rivers - much in that order; the Clinch and Powell Mountains were named just before the party came to the Cumberland Gap. The group eventually entered on Daniel Boone’s Wilderness Road, and their travel became easier to follow.

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Manlove Origins, Part 3 - The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road

William L Manlove would have been 53 years old in 1783. That is the year he probably left Delaware heading for North Carolina. But William was not alone; he seems to have traveled with his extended family. His first wife, Hannah Robinson, died in 1765, and he married Elizabeth Newell shortly thereafter. I know of three sons and two daughters that he fathered. George Manlove, his oldest son, was 29 when the group left Delaware. George’s younger half-brothers, William and Jonathan, were not yet in their teens, and he had two children of his own who were under three. William L. Manlove had two older sisters. Margaret was accompanied by her husband, Perez Chipman, and several of their adult children. His other sister, Keziah and her husband, John Wheeler, both died in the mid 1770s. Several of their six children came along too. Its tempting to assume they all traveled together at the same time. That may not have been the case, but all of them eventually ended up in North Carolina.

Their final destination was around the Deep River area in Guilford County, 15 miles east of Salem. If they were making the trip today it would be a six hour drive of 325 miles along super highways laid along much of the route they probably followed. But in 1783, if they made an average of 10 miles a day, their trek would have taken more than a month.

So, how did they get there? They most likely traveled by way of the Great Wagon Road. The map shown in the preceding Wikipedia link was drawn in 1751, and shows the main road systems throughout Colonial America. If you double-click on the map, it will appear full size. Click it again to magnify, and you can see remarkable detail. The map is public domain, so you can download it without fear of breaking the law. It is a large file - prints out at about 39 by 25 inches - which I did (less than $5 at Kinkos). Now I got to find a wall to put it on. If you like old maps this is a great one.

The 1751 map shows a colonial road heading north through Dover. It curves east a ways, and connects with the Great Philadelphia Wagon Road a few miles west of that city. I think William and his group probably followed this route. Much of the southern portion of the road was, at first, no more than a trace through the wilderness. As the east coast filled with English immigrants there was pressure to move west. The Wagon Road was the means by which the North Carolina back country, The Piedmont, was accessed. What started as a trickle in the middle of the Eighteenth Century grew to a relative flood by the time my ancestors set foot on it thirty-five years later. By 1783 a wagon could have probably managed the trip without too much difficulty. That’s not to say it would have been easy. There were no bridges, and dirt roads became quagmires when it rained.

Michael O. and Martha B. Hartley have an excellent article published in the Tar Heel Junior Historian. It provides a brief (five page) description of the immigration into North Carolina. In part it states: “In the 1740s one of the first groups of people to enter backcountry North Carolina was ‘the Bryant settlement.’ The leader, a Quaker named Morgan Bryant, followed a path from Pennsylvania into the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia and first settled there. Later, in 1748, he led a group of people farther south into North Carolina, where they settled on the Yadkin River near a crossing called the Shallow Ford. The path Bryant pioneered would become the Great Philadelphia Wagon Road.”

The Manlove group left the Wagon Road at Salem, just before it crossed Shallow Ford, and headed east to their new home in the Deep River area. Their place lay between the modern day cities of Winston-Salem and Greensboro.

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